Interview

What Comes After the LMS? Philip Huthwaite’s Reflection on The Emergence of Workplace Learning

“5app differentiates by connecting measurement, practice, reinforcement and creation in a single ecosystem.”

By Business Outstanders

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Philip Huthwaite

In a world where technology-based learning programs are many but success is hard to find, the very question of the purpose of having a learning and development function is under tremendous re-examination. Today, organizations are more than just the number of courses completed in these programs.

Philip Huthwaite, the CEO of 5app, is at the center of this Centre. With experience in scaling young technology startups, Huthwaite has ushered in a radical change at 5app to transform it from a conventional LMS to a skills intelligence-enabled LMS for a learning environment. The primary thought for this change is that it is only a matter of significance if it is measurable within the work environment.

In this particular interview, Huthwaite talks about skill intelligence enabled through AI, innovation led by the customer, and a passion for clarity and outcomes impacting product decisions at 5app. Additionally, his real insight into predictions for corporate learning, a strategic future for L&D, and a vision that sees evidence, and not learning content, shaping learning platforms in the future makes for very engrossing reading.

Interview Highlights:

Q. Mr. Philip, During your tenure, how has 5app’s product offering evolved, and what new innovations or features are currently in development?

When I stepped into the CEO role, 5app was already a strong, award-winning learning management system (LMS). What became clear very quickly was that the digital learning market had become crowded and commoditized. Most platforms were competing on content delivery, with limited meaningful differentiation, which often reduced conversations to price rather than value.

At the same time, learning and development (L&D) teams were being asked tougher questions than ever before. Leaders wanted clear evidence of impact and return on investment, yet most L&D teams simply did not have the tools to demonstrate how learning translated into real behavior change at work.

Over the past year, we have deliberately evolved 5app from a traditional LMS into a connected learning ecosystem. We introduced Helix, our AI skills intelligence platform, to surface real-world skill signals from everyday work. Those insights can then be acted on immediately through VeeCoach, which supports practice and reinforcement using AI agents, and VeeCreate, AI content authoring, which enables rapid creation of targeted learning content to close identified skills gaps.

The focus has not been on adding more features for the sake of it, but on creating tighter loops between insight, action and continuous improvement.

Looking ahead, we are investing in deeper skills intelligence, more flexible integration options and continued development of privacy-first AI, ensuring organizations can adopt these capabilities with confidence and trust.

Q. Can you share some insights into the upcoming features or initiatives on 5app’s product roadmap that you believe will significantly impact the company’s growth and competitive edge?

The biggest growth lever for us is Helix, our AI-powered skills intelligence module. It securely analyses meeting conversations to identify skill signals over time, giving individuals clear, practical insight they can use to improve and grow these skills.

Users can now define and track custom skills mapped to their own frameworks. This means partners, such as training providers and consultancies, can use Helix as an extension beyond the classroom, measuring how their learning programs show up in real work. That capability unlocks partner-led distribution and deeper ecosystem integrations, allowing us to scale faster while staying focused on what we do best.

Q. Given your background in scaling early-stage tech companies, how have your previous experiences influenced your leadership and strategic decisions at 5app?

My previous roles taught me that clarity beats complexity. Early-stage companies often fail not because the technology is weak, but because the story is unclear or the execution lacks focus.

At 5app, that has meant being very deliberate about our narrative, our roadmap and our priorities. We do fewer things, but we do them well. It has also shaped how I work with the team. Transparency, ownership and fast feedback loops matter far more than hierarchy.

I am very hands-on, but always with the goal of building a team that can scale without relying on me being in every decision.

Q. The digital learning space is highly competitive and rapidly changing. How does 5app differentiate itself to maintain growth and market leadership?

Most platforms still optimize for learning delivery. We optimize for giving L&D the evidence and credibility needed to influence performance and strategy.

5app differentiates by connecting measurement, practice, reinforcement and creation in a single ecosystem. Helix shows what is really happening in day-to-day work. VeeCoach enables people to practise real situations safely. VeeCreate allows learning teams to respond quickly to emerging gaps. The LMS brings it all together in the flow of work.

That combination gives L&D a clear seat at the strategic table, moving them beyond content delivery to becoming trusted business partners who can demonstrate impact, not just activity.

Q. How has customer feedback shaped your product development and growth strategies during your time as CEO?

Customer feedback has been central to our approach. Many of our most important product decisions have come directly from conversations with L&D leaders, not from internal brainstorming.

Helix was born out of the repeated frustration customers shared around surveys, self-assessments and lagging indicators that fail to show the real business impact of learning. Before building anything, we spoke with over 100 L&D professionals beyond our immediate network to ensure we were not designing in a vacuum. Our focus on low-friction AI, minimal IT involvement and strong governance also comes directly from what customers told us they needed.

We build with customers, not for them. That principle shapes not only what we create, but how we price, position, and take our solutions to market.

Q. With advancements in AI, data analytics, and other emerging technologies, how do you see these innovations transforming corporate learning platforms like 5app?

AI is shifting learning from something people plan to something that happens naturally in the flow of work.

The real transformation is not generative content. It is insightful. AI allows us to observe patterns of behavior, identify skill gaps early and support people at the moment they need it, not months later.

For platforms like 5app, the opportunity is to remove friction, reduce guesswork and give L&D credible evidence they can stand behind at board level.

Q. What are your strategic plans for expanding 5app’s presence in international markets, and which regions or industries are you focusing on?

Philip Huthwaite

Our international growth strategy is partner-led. Rather than opening offices country by country, we scale through trusted partners who already have local reach and credibility, especially training providers, consultancies and learning technology vendors who can take Helix and the rest of the 5app product suite into their customer base as an extension of their programs and platforms.

Regionally, we are doubling down on the UK and Europe in the near term, where we already have traction and strong partner relationships, while building a repeatable motion for North America, where demand for skills intelligence and measurable impact is accelerating.

In terms of focus, we are not limiting ourselves to a single industry. We prioritize organizations with large knowledge workforces and ongoing investment in leadership and human skills, plus any environment where proving behavior change and capability is business-critical, including regulated and complex enterprises.

Q. In today's workplace, learning and communication are integral to talent development. How does 5app align its offerings with broader organizational goals and HR strategies?

We align by starting with outcomes, not courses.

HR and L&D are being asked to support performance, leadership capability, retention and readiness for change. 5app supports that by making skills visible, coachable and measurable.

Because our tools integrate into everyday work, learning becomes continuous rather than episodic. That aligns far better with how modern organizations operate and how people actually develop.

Q. Looking ahead, what is your long-term vision for 5app over the next 3-5 years, and what core values will drive your leadership and the company's growth?

The long-term vision is for 5app to be the platform organizations rely on to understand and develop human capability at scale.

In three to five years, I want 5app to be synonymous with skills intelligence, not just learning delivery. A system that gives leaders confidence, gives employees support, and gives L&D the credibility it deserves.

“Learning only becomes powerful when it is visible, measurable, and connected to real work. Our job is to give L&D the evidence and tools they need to lead with confidence.”